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New name same crap for "Prosperity of Life"

 

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The company now known as "Prosperity of Life", formerly known as Liberty League, then briefly Polaris Media Group, afterwards Polaris Global has changed it's name once again. Shane Krider was one of the original founders of Liberty League in the USA. The company scammed thousands of dollars out of dozens of victims by promising huge commissions for selling their "self improvement" products. These products are the grossly overpriced "Beyond Freedom Evolution" home study course, which costs thousands of dollars but which is no better than many other courses available online for little or nothing and also their CONferences which cost mind blowingly ridiculous amounts of money, but which are essentially worthless.

Krider is currently married to Rachel Oliver, an ex Herbalife spruiker from Australia and has concentrated on scamming Aussies since being convicted in the US state of Arizona and essentially moving the scam across the Pacific. 

A big red flag when dealing with all MLM companies is recurring name changes combined with a claim that "we are not MLM".

The Kriders have a few so called "leaders" operating for them in Australia. Simon Haggard, Alison Wheeler, Adam Bude and Lee Anne Bartlett operate out of Queensland. Pauline O'Halloran in Victoria and Alex Ford in WA are joined by a rotating number of newbies who usually fall by the wayside once they realise that they have been conned.

 Give your cash to "Prosperity of Life" and kiss it goodbye.

Google "liberty league arizona" for more info.

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    1. I have to thank you for bringing this information to the attention of other's who will undoubtedly be drawn into the hype.

      Found a grammatical error. Couldn't work out where to edit. The original comment is thus:

      One cannot help but wonder why there have been four name changes to the same "online business opportunity" since Liberty League was brought to its knees in court and closed down. Suss.

      So many people have been conned. So many ... it's sad. I guess, the squeaky door will eventually get the oil and these con artists who claim this is not MLM, nor is it a pyramid scheme, will be brought to their own knees.

      Prosperity of Life. Really?

      Not when you're left holding $30k in debt and you have to sell your home. Not when your upside team leader (the person who recruited you) is stripped of her every access to this scam and left dangling without ever knowing why. WTF? She was left $90K out of pocket with nothing to show for it.

      But how many people have just chalked this sad, greedy expose up to experience and walked away? Thousands.

      Who is still reaping the benefits? Unless you're on the tip of the pyramid, it certainly won't be you.

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    2. They almost sucked me in! Luckily I decided to do my homework. They are currently operating in Australia through online job agencies like adzuna.

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  2. Wow, I've just finished ploughing through 5 of their videos....time I can never get back! I'm getting a call at 5pm tomorrow to ask if I've watched the videos and to give me the hard sell I guess??? Something just said to me "go do a quick Google search" .....soooo glad I did! I'll be sending an email to Marilyn (Australia) to say don't bother calling me!

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    1. Just sent that same email myself

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    2. I responded to a person's posting on Facebook - work from home in the USA. She is in South Africa. Did 1st interview which I "passed". In retrospect I believe she did not hear anything I said and is working of a pre-written script. I was sent the email with links to the videos. Once I had the name, I googled... and so glad I did. I did not waste any time watching the videos as I already had made up my mind not to touch this. Had my phone call today when I said thanks, but no thanks. What a snotty reception I got from her after that...

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    3. Hi Ruby. Congratulations..... Unfortunately everybody "passes" their 1st interview and from there they are introduced to the hard sell to try to extract up to $30,000 from them. The Kriders have been at this for years and it only takes a few people each year to fall for it to keep the scam going. Since they cannot advertise on most job sites they have resorted to vague sounding ads on Facebook which are not clear and open.

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  3. I came across this on facebook and entered my details. I missed a phone call from a lady but decided to do my due diligence and im glad I did. Total scam!

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  4. These scammers are flat out advertising on several platforms even though the more reputable sites won't let them post an ad.

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    1. It would be great if you could elaborate on your simple statement. Shane Krider was co founder of Liberty League and also POL. Beyond Freedom is the entry level package of both programmes. Rachel was Liberty League's top earner and has taken over from the previous Mrs. Krider. The CONferences are essentially the same worthless crap except now you have to listen to Shane as the main speaker. Please tell us more.

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    2. Fear of the unknown will keep you stuck. You actually wont know and cant comment unless you have experienced it for yourself. Its like everything in life. Don't believe everything you hear. If a change is what your desire, Go out and know for yourself.

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    3. Hi Dontlisten, there is a big difference between fear of the unknown and actually doing your due diligence. If, after reading this blog or any of the other reviews of Liberty League, Polaris Global, POL ( whatever it's called today) and you decide to part with your money then that is fine. The one thing a prospective investor should not do is DONTLISTEN to the views of anyone other than the scammers themselves. Often family and friends offer good advice so don't go "full boat" without your research.

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  6. I don't think it's necessarily a scam as most people think it is, it isn't a pyramid because those are illegal, and if you still think this is one then the corporate structure is actually one as well (your boss has a boss has a boss has a boss has the board of directors has the ceo and if you're entry level you're not going to get a raise to become the CEO any time soon).
    Also, most job sites will not allow ANY business where recruiting is a big part of the job, to post jobs online. Again that's all MLM's, and other hybrid business models, not just this one. A lot of people read reviews and immediately think SCAM and that is beyond uneducated of them.
    The part I don't understand, is the actual product. Where is the value -for customers-in charging (them) 5x the amount of the same quality coaching from elsewhere? That, is the real scam.

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    1. Hi Unknown, pyramid schemes are indeed illegal and POL is definitely one of them. Just because they have "products" doesn't negate this. The "products" are only sold to those participating in the scheme, ie new recruits rather than genuine retail customers. In Australia it is very much a buyer beware marketplace for this type of scam as the various local and federal government agencies often feel they have more important issues to deal with.

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  7. WOW, I have just been conned by this mob.. Was happy to grow this business slowly. started off paying $2500.00 US to join, thought ok, let's see how this goes, make my money back, make sure it is legitimate and slowly build from there.. I absolutely walked away when my M8 director told me to go and get a loan for $30 0000 so I can sell all their products and make my money back quickly........errrr, but didn't I say to you I was to start slow and see if this thing is real? Money I cannot get back, wasted money but at least I found out sooner rather than later.. I should have listened to my family.

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    1. Shame you gave up. you could have made your money back and then some and have a great accomplishment to show for it. I'm afraid it sounds like its not for you. If all the successful people in the world gave in that easy because of what others think there wouldnt be any successful people in the world. Shame, you could have been great!!! I guess you wont know now.

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    2. All scammers will blame the victim. You could certainly have made your money back, but in the process you would have had to rip off some other unsuspecting person. The real shame belongs to the scammers.

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  8. I’m looking into this at moment and think that it’s up to us or you to put the hard work in (like any business) to reap the rewards. Am I missing something? Sounds like all the people with negative feedback possibly didn’t work hard enough for it?

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    1. Hi Erin, Thanks for dropping by. Unfortunately it is almost impossible to sell the POL products to anybody other than those who believe the promises of executive incomes for selling these very same products. You end up competing against the person who recruited you. Both looking for more recruits without any actual retail sales. No matter how hard you work, very few are actually going to fall for it. I just checked out Rachel Krider's latest video and she is pushing the fact that you just need two hours per day to succeed with POL, which is just plain ridiculous.

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  9. I think you are scamming all these poor innocent people on here that believe YOUR CRAP. Did your mum ever teach you how talking crap about someone will bring you bad Karma? I think I'm afraid that all these people on here have been duped by your negativity and that you haven't been able to succeed in your life so this blog is to make you feel better and do nothing for anyone else who wants to try to change their lives for the better. I know and have met many successful entrepreneurs who have started their business with them from scratch and guess what??? They have succeeded to live the dream that they wanted. Who are you to try to stop someone trying to reach a dream or goal. Not anyone I would take any notes from anyway. Be wary of this person writing this blog. He is obviously a troubled individual throwing his toys out of the cot for what ever reason. It would be lovely for you to try to be more positive in life because more people will probably follow you. Your negativity is infecting people and not in a good way. Shucks. What would the world be like if you infected everyone???? hmmmmmm. thank god, it wont happen. Shane and Rachel have made a lot of people happy and content in their new lifestyles. Tell me, What have you done thats positive in someones life??? I will wander if you will delete this post????

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    1. Hi Dontlisten. Interesting that you think that Shane and Rachel have made a lot of people happy, because the happy people are vastly outnumbered by the unhappy ones. Sure there's a half dozen or so at the top who make a few dollars but even they are living show lives. Just look at Pauline, Simon, Alison, Adam, Lee Ann etc. they really are a miserable bunch, almost as miserable as Rachie herself. Rachel hires a boat in Thailand and you would think she actually owns it the way she carries on. Pathetic really.

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    2. Hi Sillery
      Keep up the excellent work proving information to people smart enough to do their due diligence as I have by reading this and other posts about POL.
      The above particularly nasty and unnecessarily abusive comment, accusing you of negativity because you haven't well in your life speaks volumes to me about the character of a someone who has already been brainwashed. Very sad for them but fortunate for me about to fork out a big wad of money. You saved me!
      THANKYOU!

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    3. Thank you Susan. I remember what interested me first about Liberty League was it's similarity to an organisation I am very familiar with, namely the "Church" of $cientology. It was only later that I discovered that the Kriders are actually members of the so called church. While the Kriders do not openly push the cult down people's throats, it is apparent that many of $cientology's practices are employed by LL, Polaris, POL or whatever it's called. The brainwashing you have correctly identified is subtle but nonetheless an essential part of convincing new recruits to hand over large sums of money in the hope of future reward - namely the "executive" six figure income.

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    4. Dontlisten............How much have you made from this program in the last 6 months?.......... I mean actual taxable income. Could you safely go to a lender and borrow against this "business". (please answer honestly)

      There are millions of people who actually believe in Scientology too. Scams come in many guises.

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    5. Hi there Cadrat. You make a valid point in questioning whether Dontlisten has made much real taxable income from POL. It would appear that even those at the top of the pyramid- the "big earners" in Australia like Pauline O'Halloran, Simon Haggard, Adam Bude, Alison Wheeler etc. actually barely scrape a living from the scam. Even the Kriders just maintain a veneer. The homes and the boat are just leased at the lowest possible price to give an appearance that denies the reality. It's called the "fake it til you make it" mentality, but it's all a sham.

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    6. I see Don't ListenToAngryPeople hasn't replied... ^_^ - I wonder why...?? :)

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  10. All those people that are happy with the company are part of a team specifically created, by the company, to try and mitigate damages created by those who are speaking out against it. My wife almost bought into it. SCAM SCAM SCAM.

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    1. Your wife is very fortunate. The Kriders and their associates are currently targeting women big time. They are pushing the idea that women can make big money while looking after kids and family - all with relatively little effort. Of course you have to part with $30K in order to get "qualified" to make this big money. Sometimes it's the most desperate who fall for the pitch, which is often a financial disaster for the victim and her family.

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  11. these thinly disguised mlm scams should be banned from advertising, i reported a few when still advertising on seek, didnt know they have been operating via these other sites, more work to do, accc is a good start.

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    1. Hi Jerry, I totally agree. The ACCC is a good starting point in trying to get your money back from these scammers. Unfortunately those at the top of the pyramid (Krider & Oliver) stay away from Australia as much as possible in order to minimise their chance of being brought to justice. For the so called "leaders" in Oz I can guarantee that they have very few assets from which to repay the people they have conned. Nonetheless it is still worth reporting them to the ACCC. It is interesting that the Feds in the USA have recently shut down the MOBE scam which was ironically run by an Aussie called Matt Lloyd McPhee, but which targeted mostly Americans. MOBE essentially ran the same type of scam as POL where you paid big money for "education" which taught you how to sell the same education to others who want to sell it to others etc. etc. Lloyd McPhee is currently crapping himself at the thought of an American jail cell and some very unattractive cell mates, but I suppose in the end you reap what you sow.

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  12. i have a second interview scheduled tomorrow with Ursula Linhoff....is she new to the business or an old hand?

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  13. Ursula's name is new to me but I just did a quick Google search and she fits the profile of those being targeted by POL at the moment. Hopefully she herself hasn't given the scammers too much of her hard earned money.
    If she has, then the only way she can recover some of it is to convince someone such as yourself that you too can make a "six figure income" by giving her the money so you can try to convince somebody else that they can make heaps of money by selling them same stuff to somebody who wants to make another "six figure income" and so on. Retailing of the so called products is impossible without the income opportunity so that makes it a pyramid scam.
    Ask Ursula to show proof of her big income from POL. And be very dubious about claims of executive income from the scam.

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    1. I'm very curious as to 1) how you know so much about this company but are not involved in it 2) how you have the time to continually post here lengthy answers to everyone's questions 3) what you actually do for a living?
      Fact: For all of the negatives one cannot accurately call this a pyramid scheme
      Fact: There are very honorable people in this company doing good for others and helping to teach others to do well for themselves
      Fact: The Kriders have a vested interest in the success of others
      One can make all of the negative claims in the world, but when ones uses hyperbole to constantly make their point, how is it any different than the people and company one is condemning?

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    2. Hi DrCacao. Great to have your input.
      1. It's easy to find out about the company because they themselves are very active on the net. They have a Facebook account and their associates constantly push the "business" on social media platforms. There are also several review sites operated by former associates. These too are easily accessible and provide an excellent insight into the inner workings of the scam.
      2. I spend about 15 minutes a week responding to comments. It's not that hard.
      3. I am an investor, with a property and share portfolio and am also the owner of a successful wide ranging business group.
      Fact. Whatever you call it, and it has had many names. It's a scam
      Fact. There is no honour in scamming.
      Fact. The Kriders have a vested interest in taking as much money from you for as long as possible.
      Hyperbole is in the eye of the beholder. I don't take money and give crap in return.

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  14. Hello guys! I had an interview call last week and I've watched the videos too. What i kept thinking of was: wow these presentations are coming across as Scientology spin off videos. The concept is simple, to put it simply they are screwing you and you have no chance of ever recovering from such a horror financially or with your reputation intact.
    To all the yay sayers: shame on you! How would you like it if someone scammed your family for the fun of making some money?

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    1. Hi Shirmone. $cientology promises that in return for your payment of many thousands of dollars, pounds, rand, Bitcoin or whatever currency you like, you will be boosted to infinite levels of emotional and financial prosperity.
      POL, LL, Polaris or whatever it's called promises that in return for your payment of many thousands of dollars, pounds, rand, Bitcoin or whatever currency you like, you will be boosted to infinite levels of emotional and financial prosperity.
      Believe it at your peril.
      The Krider's have previously acknowledged that they are members of the church of $cientology.

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    2. Seems Shirmone also nearly got caught on an Expats in the UK site? Hmmm quite a few of these ads out there ate the moment that I've been seeing :(

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    3. POL seems to be focusing their efforts on Facebook expat sites at the moment. In Australia they have a few Kiwi scammers such as Simon Haggard and Alison Wheeler pushing the scam in Queensland. They also target UK and Irish people living in Oz, especially women returning to the workforce.

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  15. The adverts continue for this scheme across Facebook - I think the name Peter Rosenfeldt is one to look out for too.

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    1. They have a few people advertising on Facebook at the moment. Of course there is no mention of the company name or what exactly they do, only that you can make an easy "executive" income if you follow the system, that is give them your money.

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  16. Thanks for all the comments, I was very close to joining.
    Close call.

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    1. You just saved yourself thousands of dollars and a lot of heartache.

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  17. Hey everyone, I just had my first interview yesterday and spent all evening watching the videos. I don't know why but I got seriously hooked and a part of me really wants to give this a go. I guess thinking about what I could do if I had all this money made me dream... That's probably why they show off their lifestyle first before telling you what you need to do to get it. Kinda clever, actually.
    But reading all your comments above makes me very nervous and thinking I might be off into a deep end here. I mean, I'd be willing to pay 2500.- to get started if this thing really keeps what it promises. But some of you mentioned that you had to forge out 30K later on? Honestly? That's a ridiculous amount of money. They don't mention this anywhere in their videos.
    It seems to me like they don't care much about the product itself but more about pushing it onto people. I first thought it's about finding people who are interested in personal development but I guess it's more about finding people who want to sell a product they're not really into, either. And the Scientology aspect is creepy, too. Can anybody point me to the video, post, article or whatever it is where they say they're part of this "church"?
    Thanks for all your help. I mean, financial freedom sounds awesome but if I'm going to leave my job for something, I have to be sure I'm not ripping off people and making money off their back.

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  18. Hi Seraina. Let's start with the lifestyle displayed in the videos. It is completely unrepresentative of the lifestyles of anyone involved with POL. The boat shots for example were filmed over a day on a leased boat in Thailand. Sure those on board enjoyed themselves but it was over in a day and then they went back to their normal lives. The foreign travel boasted about by the POL associates is really paid for from their own pockets while attending CONferences. It is an extremely expensive way to have an overseas holiday. You are absolutely correct in realising that they cleverly show of the lifestyle before telling you about the so called business.
    If you are willing to part with $2,500 you will be given their "Beyond Freedom" course. This will allow you to then sell the same course to someone else. Beyond Freedom was developed many years ago by Liberty League in the USA. It's really showing it's age and is impossible to sell to anyone on a retail basis. Shane Krider was one of the founders of Liberty League and his current wife was the top distributor in Australia. Once you have paid your $2,500 you will be told you need a clone website and other resources which will cost a couple of hundred dollars per month so that you can develop your "business". Next comes the hard sell where you will be pressed to buy one of the high end items costing ridiculous amounts of money. When you cannot make any money, you will be told that you are not "following the system". You are not working hard enough. You are not really a good match for the "business". The blame will all be yours and they have no responsibility.
    You are spot on. They couldn't care less about the product from a retail standpoint. It's all about you persuading other people to buy into the "business opportunity" and thereby making yourself a multi millionaire. HaHa
    Shane Krider publicly admitted to being a follower of the $cientology cult almost 10 years ago. Various links on Google can confirm this. Around the same time Krider and his partner were fined hundreds of thousands of dollars in Arizona for ripping off clients. Again this is easily found by Googling "Liberty league Arizona".
    Last but not least don't leave your job on their empty promises. Ask plenty of questions of your recruiter. Look for accounts for last year. If the business is so successful then surely their tax returns will reflect this. Don't fall for the hard sell and be sceptical of all the big claims. All the best to you.

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  19. Hi Sillery,

    I've found your page searching Google for Scam warnings...
    Good of you to warn people.

    I've been contacted by an Angela Dickson here in the UK, advertising on one of the 'SA Expats in the UK' Facebook page. Something during watching the videos raised alarm bells, & I also realised that these videos are from 2017. Why wouldn't they be current if they're constantly on it? Just saying... :)
    Certain little glitches made me think & there's no way I'm going to part with those amounts of money in a rush!
    You can definitely find self help info all over the place for nothing, or almost nothing if you really want to & this is about 'selling' self help programmes...?
    There are loads of these programs all over the place that one gets bombarded with, these guys are just a bit more clever with dangling the carrot with their videos.

    Ouch for people that buy into this... :/
    Thanks again! I've emailed to say I'm not interested.

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    1. Hi Claudia. Thanks for the comment. You are absolutely correct that the videos promoting Prosperity of Life are extremely weak in the context of what is available on the Internet for free.
      You only have to watch Shane Krider's performance on some of their stuff for a few minutes to realise that he is extremely poor at getting his message across. He really does sound like the stuttering high school dropout which he claims to be.
      The carrot is certainly dangled in the form of relatively low entry price to join the so called "business ". All the best.

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    2. Sillery McGreery You might be interested to know that Shane Krider, was one of the founders of a known pyramid scheme called Liberty League back in 2009 that scammed $5 Million of people’s hard earned money.

      And now, he is back. If you want some details let me know you might be shocked!

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  20. Hi, I live now in Chile, emigrated from the UK and on my facebook I got add from Claudia Salazar who add this business and require Spanish speaking people. I knew this is a scam but I wanted to check it, so I applied. She told me that they are opening this business in new countries and one of them in Chile. I am so so worried about all those people here. They are so new to all those scammers; they will fall for it to make a better life and many families’ lives will be destroyed. When I had an interview with Claudia, she was very convincing. She asked me if my goal is 6number figure I said to her that to have hopes with realistic goals and know the way how to achieve those goals takes everybody to the prosperous future but 6numbers in short period without knowing what " the company is about " is just a wish - many of our wishes are unrealistic. So after that, she told me that I did not pass the interview. ( i believe I did not sound desperate to her and I would not be an easy target) . But I still wanted to know this product they are selling so I called her back- she answered, and I played the game how I am motivated etc. etc. to give me a chance. So I got all those videos information etc etc. all this bullshit) They " coach" run conferences without having an academic degree, not having any accreditation from professional institutions and charge a ridiculous amount of money. How to stop it, how to make people here aware of the danger coming from them?

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    1. I can greatly understand your concern... And with so many desperate people out their looking for ways to try & improve their lives this scheme makes me feel a bit angry... I'm sure they've ruined a serious number of people lives!!

      Maybe consider creating a shareable post via FaceBook & Social Media.
      Head it to make it look scary like WARNING!! SCAM ALERT or something.
      People love sharing things that make them feel a bit nervous, like that recent FB spam message regarding duplicate accounts again...

      Whenever I see these ads for Prosperity Life I report them to FB as a scam.
      Not sure if they take any notice though.
      Good Luck

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  21. Thanks for the warning regarding the attempt to bring the scam to Chile. Maybe you could post something here in Spanish to alert others in South America to the dangers they face by getting involved with these people.
    They are certainly not accredited by any academic or professional body to provide any educational services or material so you are dead right about how ridiculous the prices they charge are.
    How to stop it? The best way would seem to be by exposing them on the Internet so that potential victims can be warned before they part with large sums of money.

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  22. Hi, I thought I might be interested, then watched the videos and wondered when I would get to see anything of the product to entice my interest, for me a big gap in terms of investing in a product I know nothing about other than someone talking it up. I also saw it as pyramid marketing from what I know of it and even if it isn't it's still the same kind of thing. Selling the product on for a huge profit to yourself seemed a bit dodgy, as someone that's always looking for a bargain, I couldn't think why you would buy something for $1,800 more or $5000 more than its worth, it's kind of like gifting your money to a complete stranger and hoping that someone will do the same for you. Yep, when in doubt do the due diligence. I'm glad I did.

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    1. Why would anybody in their right mind buy a product for $5,000 when the seller is getting $4,000 in commission. It just doesn't make sense.

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    2. true!!! Once you are a member, they’ll use pressured sales tactics to get you to spend tens of thousands of dollars for “personal development courses” and “conferences”.

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  23. Yesterday afternoon I was contacted by a lady after I had replied to an ad on an Australian job search site (work from home employment opportunity). I spent two hours watching the 6-part video presentation. The guy (Shane Krider) and his wife (Oliver) failed to provide any clear substance to what the actual 'products' were other than vague references to self development materials. Other than that there was the spiel of how to on-sell the material and so forth. You are expected to buy and sell a product to which in reality I have no clue contains, unless I buy one for myself. There is no 'sample' product.

    I have yet to read from someone who can accurately describe at length what the material contains. Shane by his own admission claims to be the high school drop-out yet from what I can gather, the self development material being promoted is claiming to develop people psychologically. I assume that the creator of the material would at least need to be legitimately qualified in a business psychology major.

    Watching the conference video highlight of Shane and Oliver hosting guests in Thailand made me think, "Why are these guys hosting the conference and who else is talking?" I at least want accredited professionals in business and psychology to be giving talks. The vagueness and comments by attending guests made me feel like this was more of a cult style gathering of hoodwinked members desperate for something great to appear before them. Lots of positive talk about how the conference had somehow changed their outlook on life - I actually felt sorry for some of those interviewed who seemed to have various forms of emotional baggage and were seeking answers. I fear many vulnerable people are sucked in at great costs. If that is the case, then this is truly a new level of evil going on. The 'system' in which you are meant to advertise mainly on platforms like Facebook means that you will need to fork out heavily in online advertising. You are supposed to be able to identify and target niche audiences within the Social media platforms as well. Add website costs and search engine optimisation. This all racks up to many $$$$$ eventually.

    Reviews indicate that the marketers who called will try to pressure you into buying the product anyway. This would amount to a few thousand dollars there when at this initial stage you haven't even seen the product! Of course it would be foolhardy to buy something you have no idea what it really contains. The promoters are the ones who make all the money selling these programs; the buyers are blamed for not succeeding because they were not falling the steps correctly, not trying hard enough, not studying the training material, need to attend more seminars, conferences, buy more education material, listen to webcasts, etc etc. In the end it all becomes too overwhelming and futile. Most will give up minus a large chunk of their money.

    The posters here and on other sites reviewing POL who claim Shane and Oliver are nice people etc, I would like to know how much they actually do know about these people? Are they friends? What is their association with them? And if so then please elaborate to all in details more about the products, conferences/seminars and everything else that makes these people so fantastic!

    The 'spirituality' type replies make me suspect that those who claim they are so nice have succumbed to something similar to Scientology. In fact the best con people do appear 'nice'. That' what makes them so good! Having a criminal record for fraud in the US already over previous scams (as posted several times), I would caution anyone dealing with Shane at all. Why would you give him a second chance and part money into a company run by him that already seems to have accumulated several negative reviews of being yet another scam? And the fact POL has just been re-branded several times before is another warning bell. For me I think I will pass on this 'to good to be true' offer.

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  25. ou see, why would any entrepreneur need a mindset training from people whom we don’t know?

    As an entrepreneur, we would follow people like Tony Robbins, Gary Vaynerchuk, Jay Shetty or John C Maxwell, because we know they are the real deal.

    Why would we spend thousands of dollars following someone we don’t know, we would rather spend that money on a seminar conducted by Tony Robbins or Gary Vanerchaek.

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    1. Bob Proctor was instrumental in our PD products. Shane Krider is right up there with the best without all the yelling and hoo haa.

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    2. :) seriously?? HA HA !! Mnay PONZI companies used motivational speakers to speak at their events you know , i will ask my friend who is in touch with Bob Proctor and let see what he says ! We will make sure people know HOW Chrissy and COL GREIG SCAM PEOPLE ! Dont worry ...KARMA ITS A BITCH!

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    3. "Shane Krider is right up there" says Chrissy Greig. He sure is. Right at the top of the scammers pyramid. He was forced to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars after scamming lots of people in the USA. Now - like Lazarus he is scamming lots of new people. WATCH OUT!!
      By the way, he is the most pathetic speaker I have ever heard. Just listen to any of his podcasts. Totally cringeworthy.

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  26. I am making full time income with online marketing $10K per month and never spend more than a $1000 for that. You can see how screwed they are! it doesn’t cost thousands to gain that knowledge.

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  27. 10 years ago I looked at this business and thought it's too good to be missed. Others say it's too good to be true. Others use google gossip and uneducated opinions from people they don know to make their decisions for them.
    I am so glad I joined back then and have lived the lifestyle I have chosen.
    A Great business decision.

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    1. Hi Chrissy. On your blog you claim that the POL products are "university accredited ". This is an outright lie. If you have "lived the lifestyle" then surely you are able to prove it by uploading you financials for the last few years. Big claims require rigorous examination. Why are your co scammers living a hand to mouth existence if they are making so much money? Please tell.

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  28. true those scammers only LIE about this to suck in newbies who have no clue how naive they are

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  29. Tried this business, spent £50,000 on courses, events and advertising, spoke to over 2000 prospects, sold 4 courses. Reasonable content in main on line course but nothing new, live events were very expensive and underwhelming. If products were sold at 25% of existing price, might be an ok opportunity but really overpriced. The training conference calls are quite good though. Learned some good stuff.

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    1. Hi Marc. So you gave $50,000 to the Kriders and learned some "good stuff" in return. Seems like a scam to me.

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  30. Hmmm, just applied for this and was then contacted by Moira McCallum, it was just as i was about to call her that I decided to do my research - so glad I did, what a close call!
    Emailed her back with the links exposing the scam, suspect she won't be contacting me again lol.

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    1. Moira McCallum has only recently been sucked in to the scam. I doubt she will last very long. It is a shame the she has lost her hard earned money though.

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  31. I have been currently looking for work from home and came across POL online. What I have noticed is that their ads are everywhere. There must be a lot of new NZ recruits as POL ads are all over job search sites here and I haven't even seen one on fb yet. Gosh this seems like a worry. I replied the advertisement as it was calling on Mums and Dads looking to make a passive income working from home, I am pregnant and looking for working from home work that is flexible, and who did I get? One of POL's main aussie leaders Alison Wheeler, I have just read the comments about Shane Krider and Rachel Oliver's "leaders" in australia and abroad and Alison is one well advertised "leader" online. She sent me the videos and tried calling me this morning, I missed the call and then she sent an email asking me to give her a call back after I'd had a chance to watch the videos. Once watching them I could totally see how they pull you in and "dangle the carrot" so to speak and convince you by making it sound so easy and in only 3 steps. I was pretty enticed by it at first as the money making prospects were a big temptation and who doesn't want to make a 6 figure income... right? but I was thinking at the same time at the back of my mind that it seemed too good to be true and that it felt like a recruitment process for the Scientology church. Very precise strategies for pulling people in and brainwashing techniques to those that are none the wiser. I can see how the naive, overly trusting and emotionally weak people could be targeted and could be used in this way. I'm soooooo glad I did my homework and research online before I talked to Alison because after I sought out my own information, I was shocked at how much evidence was out there that POL is NOT a legit company with a true philosophy but rather a scamming MLM company that will take you for all you have got and more. I am glad I found this blog. It has definitely helped my decision about NOT believing in this SCAM or POL and glad hat here are other sources out there on the internet to reaffirm this fact as well. WARNING: those who are seriously thinking about joining POL *educate yourself thoroughly before you make one of the biggest mistakes of your life!!!!

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    1. There are 2 Kiwis living in Queensland who have been involved in the scam for a number of years, Simon Haggard and Alison Wheeler. Both of them have unfortunately targeted their fellow Kiwis shamelessly. Preying on gullible and naive people who are trying to do the best for their families is a really low act but Simon and Alison are good at it. By the way, it looks like Pauline O'Halloran in Victoria has quit POL. Despite all her claims of having "retired her husband", she never actually made any real money and only succeeded in providing Krider and Oliver with some pocket money.

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